Selections from The Punk Vault [Doggy Style]

Doggy Style – Work as One 7″ EP (1985 Mystic Records)

I believe I first heard of the band Doggy Style by reading the pages of Flipside fanzine. They were a bunch of hardcore kids from Southern California who were also into skateboarding, and since what I was into at the time were “both kinds of music” punk and hardcore, and I spent every free second not at school or a record store on my skateboard, it was a no-brainer to check this band out.

This would be their first release, which I picked up after I got their first album on Flipside Records. The record came out in 1985 and must have sold pretty well over the years back then as there were quite a few pressings. The first pressing had a hard glued sleeve and then would later be repressed with a xerox sleeve with either the mystic or Superseven logos on the front, and it also came on colored vinyl at one point too (500 pressed).

After this single, they put out a really good album, Side By Side, on Flipside Records. A couple of songs on this single were re-recorded on the album. Perhaps their most famous song is called “Donut Shop Rock” a song about, well, donuts.

A one-sided live album followed on Flipside a year later called Live at Sun City. It was a green silk screened record that came in a clear bag with a sticker on the bag with the record info on it. After that release the ugly happened, the band splintered into two separate factions and feuded over the name. At one point there was basically two Doggy Styles, similar to what happened with Life Sentence. One version put out a Doggy Style II album out on Flipside, and the other put out The Last Laugh on National Trust Records. The Flipside version must have lost out, and the remaining Doggy Style, by now a pretty bad rap-rock band, put out one more album on Triple X Records called Don’t Hit Me Up then called it a day.

Brad X, founding member and his brother Spike were in another band in the mid 90s called Humble Gods with Doug Carrion who was in the Descendents. Brad X is now in the Kottonmouth Kings who seemed to have garnered a bit of a following but have absolutely nothing in common with punk rock. I do not know what became of the other members of the band.

To the best of my knowledge, none of the Doggy Style records are available in any format. It would be nice to see the Flipside releases compiled together on a CD someday.

As always, if you have any additional information or were a member of Doggy Style, please get in touch.

Listen to “10 on 1” from the record






61 comments

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  • On a very tenuous note, does anybody know whatever happened to Al Flipside? (and the rest of the Flipside gang, come to that)

  • Al seems to have vanished into thin air. I have no idea what happened to him. I know he had financial troubles in relation to flipise and he might have been being sued by somone. Some of the other Flipside guys do that fanzine called Razorcake.

  • Never heard of this band, Pity that guy joined the kottonmouth kings, Now that is one bad band, ska rock rap?.Nice Bauhaus collection.

  • The Doggy Style II and Don’t Hit Me Up recordings are available on a combined CD format. I bought it a few years ago off amazon, should still be available.

  • that twofer CD is missing a few songs off the DS II album though, I forget exactly which ones; “976” & something else.

  • also, as a side note, “Brad X”/ “Brad Xavier” (the Doggy Style/ Doggy Rock/ Kottonmouth Kings vocalist guy), is the younger brother of Spike Xavier, singer for MInd Over Four. When Mind Over Four played an impromteau show at my house in Columbus (their real gig had fallen through or something), Spike told me that some lyrics used by Brad for the early Doggy Style records (maybe just “Work As One”) were swiped from his old lyric books, and Spike seemed to think that was pretty funny.

  • Actually while the Kings are based on hip-hop, if you listen to them you’ll hear that they are just as punk rock as Doggy Style was. What’s wrong with hip-hop punk rock, did everyone forget the Beastie Boys?

  • i disagree somewhat with the comment that the Kottonmouth Kings “have absolutely nothing in common with punk rock” since quite a few tracks over the years would be considered more punk than rap. they even did a track, “Peace Not Greed,” with TSOL frontman Jack Grisham. And Doug Carrion wrote a few tracks for their last few albums.

    as for Doggy Style, itself, “Side By Side” is my favorite, but i havent heard Work As One, or Sun City. its very 80’s SoCal punk

    also, if anyone cares, Spike has been in a band called Corporate Avenger (website: http://www.corporateavenger.info) since about 1998 or so. they just recently released theyre 2nd full length, which is more hard rock than previous CA stuff. if u wanna check them out u can get their stuff (along with a bunch of other classic and newer punk stuff) at merch.com

    peace

  • WHAT THE HELL

    Doggy Style was the greatest untill they made dont hit me up. I have all the records, any way if u have never heard them send me an email and i could send a mp3 to u.

    PS
    im related to the bass player!

  • I remember seeing Doggy Style at Fender’s Ballroom in Long Beach some time in the mid 80’s. It’s too bad the work of bands like these have practically vanished.

  • Hey Yogi, I’ve been trying to find Doggy style albums like “live at Sun City” or Doggy Style II any ideas. I would love some Mp3’s if you can.

    Thanks

  • Doggy Style II was an incredibly well-produced punk album. I don’t know why you say Don’t Hit Me Up was “Rap-Punk”, Doggy Style II had just as many “rap” moments. But the songs WERE better on II.

  • Ok Spike X Brad aka Daddy X was in the band called HUMBLE GODS but befor the spike was working with Mind Over Four and then he got back with Brad and did some shit with Kottonmouth Kings and afther i think two mebers of Humble god’s passed away Daddy X and Spike was talking and Spike came up with the name CORPORATE AVENGER and he put out a cd called Taxes Are Stealing by him self and then thats when Pat Dubar came in from Unity, Unifrom Choice and Mind Funk and thay put out CORPORATE AVENGER the New Testament and then that was it thay came back again with Freedom Is A State of mind and thay stoped working afther 911 and then thay just came back with the New Cd BORN AGAIN with a all new sound and you can get more on them at http://www.corporateavenger.tk and go to my site i made for the band to get more news as well as Kottonmouth kings 1605 and ICP BLAZE TWIZTID and many more at http://www.corporateavenger.tk and get all of CORPORATE AVENGER stuff at http://www.merch.com

  • This is not snoop dogg This is some of members of Kottonmouh Kings And CORPORATE AVENGER not snoop dogg. Well just read befor you speak

  • Also worth noting is that it was Brian Baker playing guitar (Minor Threat, Meatmen, Dag Nasty, Junkyard, Bad Religion) and Doug Carrion (Dag Nasty ETC.) playing bass on The Last Laugh. Say what you will, but “sweater” from Last Laugh is an awesome F’ing song. I’ve got the DS and DS2 stuff (got a copy on cassette of Last Laugh a LONG time ago – the album version came with a condom in it and the sticker stating “do it safe but do it Doggy Style”) One of my favorites.

  • Lou Gaez, the fake mohawk wearing drummer for doggystyle is the drummer for Kottonmouth kings and is known as Lou Dog. The funny thing is that Brad and Lou were very hardcore straight edge back in the Fenders/Flipside days.

  • Preceeding D.S. Ed C. and Hedge were in a band called HVY DRT. Now that was music! It’s weird that people still remember this stuff….it was a long time ago. I still see stuff on e-bay like the Sun City album. In fact I picked one up for Eddie a couple of years ago.

  • I saw Doggy Style at Fenders in the Mid 80’s. I loved the stale donuts before donut shop rock!!! Donuts were flying everywhere!!!

  • Doggy Style rules!
    Man, what a great band. I own Work As One, Side By Side and the one sided picture disc live at Sun City. Some stuff @www.ladiesfromneptune.com
    I am looking for the video. HELP.
    you can mail me @ infoATladiesfromneptune.com

    A discography CD with those records would be more than welcome.

  • hey this is austin me and my friend tim well were starting a band punk. and i was wondering if we could lfcm logo with the ifel tower looking thing with the scull on top if u guys would let me now that would rock cause i want to edit it some if i can use it for my band thanks.if u want send me a friends request on myspace just incase u dont get my email here it is for myspace sped1@myspace.com plz let me now i just dont want any torble plz say i can it would mean so much thx bye.

  • LOL!!!! Yeah, I remember those shirts. Where did you get that? The shirts with the two dogs doing it were my favorite.

  • Cool, I’ll check it out.
    Here’s a little history on Donut Shop Rock. I wrote that song along with Ladies From Neptune, Nymphomaniac, and skate party etc… when I was in a little Esperanza high school punk band called AWOL and brought these songs with me to DS. Donut Shop Rock was written about an episode involving a donut shop ran by non english speaking foreigners. We used to go in the shop and ask for donuts by pointing to a donuts while saying, “I’ll take the motherfucking piss licking shit fuck donut right there….and they would just smile and get the donut…lol (What can you say….we were little kids and were amused easily…lol) Anyways, one day a group of us including my brother, were in the donut shop. My brother was about the break the high score on space invaders when one of the owners unplugged the machine so he could sweep around it. This guy never bothered to ask or explain what he was doing….As you can imagine, we were pissed and decided to trash the place. We brought in my brothers little scooter and began to burn out and do figure eights inside the place, then we pushed the space invaders machine into the pathway that allows workers to enter the dining area trapping them behind the counter. We threw anything we could get our hands on while the owner watched helplessly. The whole things was over in an instant, but it was from this experience that I wrote Donut Shop Rock…lol
    Ed Caudill

  • Hey, I’m on a roll…lol Bart http://myspace.com/ladiesfromneptune asked about the spanish lyrics in “Be Strong.”
    I wrote “Be strong” right before we went in to do the 7″. We were really starting to take the whole unity thing pretty serious and were really concerned about the punk scene in southern california and how fragmented it had become. I had heard someone mention the phrase, “use your head” and I kept thinking about how true that was, and I wrote Be Strong with that in mind. Brad then took the lyrics I wrote and added a little to them. Now for the spanish part. I wanted this song to reach out to punks of all nationalities including hispanics. (including two members of DS, Ray Jimez and Lou Guyez…lol) So with the help of my father who is a language professor i wrote the phrases in spanish to be like sound bites when we sang them:

    Use Your Head

    Down with the fools

    give us your support

    and your belief.

    However, the misspellings on the record insert were all mine…lol

    Ed Caudill

  • Ed: Do you stil talk to any of the old DS guys? Why did you guys break up and what are you doing now?

    Also, thanks for the kick ass music. I dont think I could have made it through my young punk skater years without you guys. I still rock out to my old DS shit on a regular basis. Doggy Style II is still one of my all time favorites.

    Thanks for the story behind Donut Shop Rock!

  • Hi Shermdog,
    I haven’t seen Ray since the Doggy Style II days. He marrried with kids etc… Last I saw Lou, Him and Brad were promoting the Orange County Roxbury. And I last saw Brad at a friend’s funeral a couple years ago.

    You know it really makes me happy to see that some people still like the music.

    Here’s the story behind the break up of Doggy Style. We just finished our last show in Reno Nevada and we were all talking and somehow splitting up became the subject. It appeared that Brad and Lou had already made up their minds to leave. We had just come off a long tour and were a bit burned out. In addition, I sensed that Brad was ready ditch the whole Straight Edge Punk thing for Rap. In fact, later during Double Freak (We used to call them Double Mint) we used to tease Brad X and call him Vanilla Ice because looked and acted exactly like him on stage…lol I have never met a more ambitious person than Brad X. When Brad decided he wanted something…He burned for it until he got it. DS had the Good fortunate of having a front man like Brad X fronting the band. Nonetheless, in retrospect, one can see that he was ready to launch his career as a Rap artist. Who could blame him, DS had been a nonstop crazy party for nearly three years.. So, this really was the time to either take a break or move on. And I was not in a creative mode, so Brad made a decision to start a rap project. However, it was his deceptive tactics that led to the Doggy Style II record..lol

    Here’s how the battle over the name started. There were some exciting things happening for DS during this period. Slash Records was courting us and MTV wanted to air “Donut Shop Rock.” However, MTV wanted us to change our name. Our attitude was, it didn’t matter, whatever….we already decided to break up, but I suggested we use Doggy Smile for the Video. Interestingly, Brad and Lou insisted we use the name “Doggy Rock,” so I went along. Immediately, after the Video aired Brad began announcing his new band to anyone that would listen, “Doggy Rock”…lol Now I knew for sure, why they wanted to break up the band. I was bummed that they were not honest and up front about what their intentions were. If they had asked to use my song to help promote their new band I would have had no problem with it. We were all quite puzzled and could not understand why they went to all that work to be so deceptive when all they had to do was ask. I called Brad and asked him explain why, I don’t remember what his exact words were, but I remember a lot of back peddling and BS…lol. That’s when I made up my mind to stick it out with Doggy Style for one more recording, justifying it on the basis that if Brad and Lou could shamelessly steal my material to promote their next project. I could proceed with a dream of mine, and that was to write, record and produce a Second Full LP Doggy Style record. Only this one would feature Ed Caudill and Ray Jimenez …lol It was never intended to be a new band. Ray immediately came on board and Flipside records soon after. When Brad heard what I was doing, he began calling me up and threatening litigation, claiming to own the Copy Right to the name DS name…”We’ve got the Chicks, We own Copy right” (Dub This Dude, DS II), then they decide to scrap the name Doggy Rock for Doggy Style. Now you had two Doggy Styles! Who’s more legitimate?…lol Most importantly whose record is gonna be out first?. The Doggy Style II record was written and recorded in about six weeks. In fact, I heard a rumor that Brad and Lou were actually gonna finish ahead of us, so I immediately went in and finished mixing the whole DS II record in one nonstop 36 hour session. After the mixing was done….I never wanted to step foot in a recording studio again…lol The DS II record ended up being released a couple of months before “the last laugh”. My goal was to slam DS II with a shit load of songs to make appealing, The whole conceptual theme of the record was based on the subject of the homeless that exists in America. Brad and Lou’s idea to make their record appealing was give away free condemns in theirs records…lol I believe it worked because I remember they were interviewed on the news…lol However, I was only interested in one studio record. Doggy Style II was never supposed to be a band, but only a record…and that’s exactly How I kept it, in fact, I only played two shows supporting the DS II record. To this day, I’m really proud of the DS II record. It’s a great recording. I’m especially proud of the Song, “Schaefer’s Revenge,” written about DS’s original and only Rhythm guitar player, Michael Schaefer who played with me on the “Work as One” 7 inch and who seems to have been completely forgotten. After he left, I never replaced him. Later, Flipside wanted another release, which I turned down, so they turned to Ray. Now DS consisted only of Ray. I pleaded with Ray not to do it, but Flipside talked him into doing it. The subsequent record is called “Don’t Hit Me Up”. Which I personally can’t stand!…lol Later, I guess Flipside must have sold the rights to DS to Triple X cause I’ve seen the Doggy Style II and Don’t Hit Me Up CD on XXX. I think this is a really unfortunate. “Don’t Hit Me Up” was never supposed to have happened and really has little in common with “Doggy Style. The whole record plays out like a bad D.I. record. Moreover, it had strayed too far from the original and even Ray recognized it and soon called it quits. I don’t blame Ray for doing it; it’s not easy giving up a fun gig. Interestingly, The picture they used for “don’t hit me up had been a picture we had taken for DS II in an old abandoned house where we threw paint all over the walls. Anyways, XXX must have cut me out of the picture and deleted my name when they decided to release DS II and “Don’t Hit Me Up” together on one CD cause you won’t find my name anywhere on it.

    Any other questions about Doggy Style….Better Ask them now while I’m on a role…lol
    Ed Caudill

  • Remember what a good job D.S. did with the Beastie’s “She’s on it”. They would play it live and the energy was f’ing crazy!!

  • Ed…thanks for the story. Shaefers Revenge is a great song too.

    So what are you doing now? We know what Brad X and Lou are doing and smoking! But what about any of the other guys?

    Back in my Junior High days at Bernardo Yorba…I did a lip synch to Soda Jerk in my speach and drama class. I dont think the teacher had any idea what I was doing…but I thrashed around the front of the classroom pretty hard. LOL. Would have went to Esperanza but moved to Texas.

    Also, Never was a big fan of Don’t Hit Me Up but there are a couple cool songs on it.

  • Hi Shermdog,
    I don’t really follow KMK too much, but seems like they are doing fine. After DS II, I got completely out of music until recently. I just started jamming in a new band called “Sick Eddy,”…lol Honestly, it’s not a reference to me, they already had the name when I joined…lol and I’m enjoying it. We just cut a 5 song recording and it’s really good. Here’s the my space: http://www.myspace.com/sickeddymusic Were still waiting for the music to upload, so it’s a work in progress. Check it out.
    Bernardo Yorba…lol I went to middle school there too…lol Did you lip Synch that song in “Speech and Drama”?… Ms. Semigran? or something like that…lol I remember lip synching a song in that class. In fact, when I was in 7th grade, some 8th graders had a rock n roll band and performed some Led Zeppelin at lunch time. I’m sure they were terrible, but to me, they sounded the best band I had ever heard, I was floored…lol I decided I wanted to play guitar that day…lol What are you up to now days?

  • Ed. Yeah…it must have been the same speach and drama class. My buddy also did a Doggy Style song so your music was making it down to us junior high punks.

    Does anyone have a link to lyrics for any of the DS songs?

  • Wow these comments have been VERY informative and interesting. Didn’t know Corporate Avenger changed their name, or that Daddy X even had another band before KMK becides Humble Gods!

    PLEASE, anyone who has full albums of Doggystyle or info on the new Corporate Avenger, email me! 🙂

    discovolante@yahoo.com

    THANK YOU! 🙂

  • I am not Spike X lol but Spike is a real good homie and shit i got much love for him and brad thanks a lot guys for helping me out with my music DARK SOUL666 4 life.

    DARK SOUL666 FUCK THE WORLD
    new cd coming soon
    Link to get the cd coming soon

  • That’s great Adam….Spike is a nice guy, but dude, shut up about him!! You come off as creepy…..I mean if Spike wants to promote, let him do it. L.C.

  • I help the Bamd Promote that’s why i talk about them a lot i have my own website for the band and sht. And if i need any help Spike and Patrick will help me out with it. And by the way if you like DS back when spike was in the band you need to get his older cds Mind Over Four. And Patrick Mind Funk and Unity and Unifrom Choice. That’s all i got to say for now

    DARK SOUL666
    FUCK THE WORLD
    NEW CD COMING SOON

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